Carles Puigdemont, the ex-president of the Spanish region of Catalonia, spoke to the BBC’s Europe reporter Gavin Lee about life in self-imposed exile in Belgium.
The interview took place as 12 pre-independence politicians face trials in Madrid and some could face up to 25 years in prison, if found guilty.
Mr Puigdemont has been on the run since his then-government led a failed attempt to secede from Spain after a controversial self-determination referendum.
source: bbc.com