Anti-gun Mom of Nashville school shooter says: 'I think I just lost my daughter'

The mom of the transgender school shooter who murdered six said ‘I think I just lost my daughter,’ as her own calls for increased gun control emerged.

Norma Hale spoke to ABC News shortly after her daughter Audrey Hale, 28, was named as the shooter. 

She said: ‘It’s very, very difficult right now. I think I lost my daughter today.’ Norma then requested privacy as her family struggles to cope with the magnitude of her late daughter’s actions.  

Audrey was born female, and is believed to have been living as a man called Aiden. But Nashville officials continue to refer to the killer using female pronouns.

Norma’s own posts decrying school shootings and calling for increased gun control have emerged in the wake of Audrey’s massacre.  

On February 21, 2018, she posted a petition to make large-capacity gun magazines illegal to her page as a response to the horrors at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012.  

Normal Hale (pictured center), the mother of Audrey Hale (pictured right), the transgender shooter who killed six people, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members, was herself an advocate for gun control on social media

Normal Hale (pictured center), the mother of Audrey Hale (pictured right), the transgender shooter who killed six people, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members, was herself an advocate for gun control on social media

And on March 8, 2018, she posted a petition to keep guns out of schools with the caption: ‘So important!’  

Her other posts are typical of a mother proud of her family, including a celebration of her wedding anniversary and one appreciative of her daughter’s artistic talent. 

Norma and her husband Ronald were described by a neighbor as ‘very nice’ and ‘very religious.’ 

They’re also parents to a son, Scott, a law student who lives in Brooklyn. He has yet to comment on what his sister did Monday morning,

At around 10.13am, Hale opened fire at The Covenant School, shooting and killing Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs and William Kinney, all aged nine. 

Substitute teacher Cynthia Peak, 61, head of school Katherine Koonce, 60, and custodian Mike Hill, 61, were also killed. 

Koonce worked alongside her daughter at The Covenant School. Anna Koonce serves as a faculty/student assistant.

Within 14 minutes, she was dead, as Nashville police revealed photos of the two officers – Rex Engelbart and Michael Collazo – who shot and killed Hale.

Chilling security camera footage from inside the school shows Hale’s Honda Fit arrive outside, before she blasts through a locked door by shooting it, then enters and stalks the halls while pointing her rifle.   

In a statement issued late Monday night, a spokesperson for the school said: ‘Our community is heartbroken. We are grieving tremendous loss and are in shock coming out of the terror that shattered our school and church. We are focused on loving our students, our families, our faculty and staff and beginning the process of healing. 

A photo of Audrey Hale inside The Covenant School during the shooting. In the wake of the massacre, people have discovered Norma Hale had made posts on Facebook calling for gun control and decrying the exact mass violence that her daughter carried out on Monday

A photo of Audrey Hale inside The Covenant School during the shooting. In the wake of the massacre, people have discovered Norma Hale had made posts on Facebook calling for gun control and decrying the exact mass violence that her daughter carried out on Monday

This is the moment the doors to the school shattered as Audrey Hale blasted through them with one of the three guns she brought to kill six people

This is the moment the doors to the school shattered as Audrey Hale blasted through them with one of the three guns she brought to kill six people

Hale was filmed stalking through a tiled area shortly after entering the school. She was shot dead 14 minutes after she broke into the school by two cops, after firing at them from an adjoining church

Hale was filmed stalking through a tiled area shortly after entering the school. She was shot dead 14 minutes after she broke into the school by two cops, after firing at them from an adjoining church

Officer Rex Engelbart

Officer Michael Collazo

A spokesperson for the Nashville Metropolitan Police Department Monday night revealed that Officers Rex Engelbart (pictured left) and Michael Collazo (pictured right) were the members of the team who fired at Hale, ultimately killing her

Hale and her family were described as 'very nice' and 'very religious.' She's pictured here with Audrey and her brother Scott

Hale and her family were described as ‘very nice’ and ‘very religious.’ She’s pictured here with Audrey and her brother Scott

Hallie Scruggs is seen with her father Chad Scruggs, the pastor at the Presbyterian church affiliated with the school

Hallie Scruggs is seen with her father Chad Scruggs, the pastor at the presbyterian church affiliated with the school

Katherine Koonce, head of school, was among those shot dead by Hale

Mike Hill, a custodian at the school, was also killed

Katherine Koonce, head of school (left), and Mike Hill, a custodian (right) were among those shot dead by Audrey Hale

Audrey Hale, 28, opened fire at a Nashville school on Monday, killing six

Audrey Hale, 28, opened fire at a Nashville school on Monday, killing six

Hale's LinkedIn profile suggested they were now living as a man

Hale’s LinkedIn profile suggested they were now living as a man

A terrified child presses her hand against the glass of a school bus window after being evacuated from The Covenant School

A terrified child presses her hand against the glass of a school bus window after being evacuated from The Covenant School 

Children hold hands as they leave The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three kids and three staff members 

Terrified children peer out the windows of their school bus as they wait to be driven away from the school after the shooting

Terrified children peer out the windows of their school bus as they wait to be driven away from the school after the shooting 

Children from The Covenant School run past an ambulance on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three staff members and three students, before being shot by police

Children from The Covenant School run past an ambulance on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three staff members and three students, before being shot by police 

A father carries his son out of The Covenant School in Nashville after a shooter killed three students and two staff members before being shot dead

Audrey Hale, 28, is transgender and an alumnus of the school who wrote out their plans in a detailed manifesto. 

Police shared a picture of the Honda Fit she drove to The Covenant School and announced they’d found ‘additional material’ written by Hale from the manifesto she’d left.  

They also posted photos of the doors of the school, which Hale had shot out in order to gain entry. Police confirmed the glass doors had been locked when Hale arrived.

The small school is run by a church and does not employ a school resource officer. 

Hale also allegedly had planned out an attack on another school but decided not to attack there after believing there was too much security, according to Nashville Police Chief John Drake in a Monday afternoon press conference.

Cops said Hale was transgender, although they haven’t specified further details. She was born female, but a LinkedIn profile believed to be hers uses he/him pronouns, suggesting Hale was living as a man. 

It’s unclear what Hale’s motive was, but police believe she attended the school at some point. 

The shooter has left behind a manifesto, the chief said, that Drake thinks will give them a motive into the massacre, the 129th in the United States in 2023. 

She had detailed, drawn maps of the school and had been surveilling it, according to police.

Nashville police have shared a photo of the car used by Audrey Hale, the private school shooter who killed six, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members

Nashville police have shared a photo of the car used by Audrey Hale, the private school shooter who killed six, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members

They also posted photos of the doors of the school, which Hale had shot out in order to gain entrance

They also posted photos of the doors of the school, which Hale had shot out in order to gain entrance

Shooter Audrey Hale (pictured), who killed six, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members, is a transgender woman and alumnus of the school who wrote out their plans in a detailed manifesto

Audrey Hale (pictured), the private school shooter in Nashville who killed six, including three nine-year-old children and three staff members, is a transgender woman and alumnus of the school who wrote out their plans in a detailed manifesto

The front entrance of The Covenant School shows the glass doors clearly decimated by bullets

The front entrance of The Covenant School shows the glass doors clearly decimated by bullets

Katherine Koonce, head of school, was among those shot dead by Hale

Anna Koonce (pictured right), who survived the shooting, serves as a faculty/student assistant

Katherine Koonce, head of school, worked alongside her daughter at The Covenant School. Anna Koonce (pictured right), who survived the shooting, serves as a faculty/student assistant

Substitute teacher Cynthia Peak, 61, aka Cindy Broyles Peak, is shown with her daughter Ellie. Peak was one of six people shot to death at Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee on March 27, 2023

Substitute teacher Cynthia Peak, 61, known as Cindy, is shown with her daughter Ellie. Peak was one of six people shot and killed on Monday in Nashville

Metro Nashville Police officers gather near The Covenant School

Metro Nashville Police officers gather near The Covenant School

‘We have a manifesto, we have some writings that we’re going over that pertain to this day,’ Drake said. ‘We have a map drawn out of how this was all gonna to take place. There’s right now a theory that we may put out later but it’s not confirmed. We’ll put that out as soon as we can.’

When asked if how Hale identified might impact the motive, Drake paused before saying: ‘We can give you that at a later time. There is some theory to that, we’re investigating all the leads.’

According to the chief, Hale and no criminal history and said he did not know of any history of mental illness, though investigators were still looking into that.  

Drake also said that Hale had plans to attack another school in the Nashville area. 

‘There was another location that was mentioned but because of a threat assessment by the suspect, too much security, they decided not to,’ he said.

The shooter has left behind a manifesto, the chief said, that Drake thinks will give them a motive into the massacre

The shooter has left behind a manifesto, the chief said, that Drake thinks will give them a motive into the massacre

Students from the Covenant School get off a bus to meet their parents at the reunification site at the Woodmont Baptist Church Monday

Students from the Covenant School get off a bus to meet their parents at the reunification site at the Woodmont Baptist Church Monday

Metro Nashville Police Department and officials on the scene outside the Covenant School, Covenant Presbyterian Church

Metro Nashville Police Department and officials on the scene outside the Covenant School, Covenant Presbyterian Church

Sandy Durham, a neighbor of Hale’s who said she had known her ‘since she was a baby’ was shocked and said there were no warning signs that this could happen. 

‘Never. She was very sweet. I don’t know what happened. It’s very scary,’ Durham told The Daily Beast.

Sean Brashears, a next door neighbor, said he used to play basketball with Hale in his driveway and said she was a ‘normal, nice person. Maybe a little quiet.’ 

‘If I had to imagine, Audrey’s parents are probably just as shocked as everybody in the neighborhood is…It just doesn’t seem real,’ he told The Daily Beast. 

He added that, knowing the Hale family, it doesn’t seem like Audrey would have ever even been influenced by gun culture. 

‘There’s nothing that would have led me to believe that she was capable of such a thing or that she or anybody in that family would have access to, much less ever used, a gun.’

‘They just don’t seem like the family that, like, is around guns. They’re not talking about going to a gun range or they’re not going hunting.’

A terrified child presses her hand against the glass of a school bus window after being evacuated from The Covenant School

A terrified child presses her hand against the glass of a school bus window after being evacuated from The Covenant School 

Children hold hands as they leave The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three kids and three staff members 

Terrified children peer out the windows of their school bus as they wait to be driven away from the school after the shooting

Terrified children peer out the windows of their school bus as they wait to be driven away from the school after the shooting 

Children from The Covenant School run past an ambulance on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three staff members and three students, before being shot by police

Children from The Covenant School run past an ambulance on Monday after a female shooter opened fire, killing three staff members and three students, before being shot by police 

A father carries his son out of The Covenant School in Nashville after a shooter killed three students and two staff members before being shot dead

Aerial view of Covenant Presbyterian Church in Nashville on Monday after the shooting

Aerial view of Covenant Presbyterian Church in Nashville on Monday after the shooting

A man laying flowers as a memorial at the entrance to Covenant Presbyterian Church

A man laying flowers as a memorial at the entrance to Covenant Presbyterian Church

Shortly before 10.13am, Hale entered the school through the shattered side door and began opening fire on the second floor. 

Police arrived at the scene and heard the gunshots coming from the 2nd floor. 

By 10,.27am, Hale had been shot dead. She was armed with two assault-style rifles and a handgun. 

Parents have been told to collect their children from a nearby church, but no other information has been given. 

‘I know this is probably the worst day of everyone’s lives. 

‘I can’t tell you how sympathetic we are,’ a Metro Police officer was heard telling the parents as they waited at a nearby church for updates. 

Neighbors of the school watched as parents frantically rushed to the scene to find their children.

‘Everyone as a parent are terrified.  

Mike Hill, a facilities worker at Covenant Presbyterian Church, was one of the victims

Mike Hill, a facilities worker at Covenant Presbyterian Church, was one of the victims

9-year-old Hallie Scruggs is seen with her brothers and her parents, Jada and Chad Scruggs, in family photos from their Facebook pages

9-year-old Hallie Scruggs is seen with her brothers and her parents, Jada and Chad Scruggs, in family photos from their Facebook pages

Hale's home is pictured. Sandy Durham, a neighbor of Hale's who said she had known her 'since she was a baby' was shocked and said there were no warning signs that this could happen

Hale’s home is pictured. Sandy Durham, a neighbor of Hale’s who said she had known her ‘since she was a baby’ was shocked and said there were no warning signs that this could happen

Sean Brashears, a next door neighbor, said he used to play basketball with Hale in his driveway and said she was a 'normal, nice person. Maybe a little quiet.'

Sean Brashears, a next door neighbor, said he used to play basketball with Hale in his driveway and said she was a ‘normal, nice person. Maybe a little quiet.’

Parents collect their children from The Covenant School in Nashville on Monday

Parents collect their children from The Covenant School in Nashville on Monday

Parents collect their children from The Covenant School in Nashville on Monday 

A family prays together after being reunited outside The Covenant School in Nashville

A family prays together after being reunited outside The Covenant School in Nashville 

A man carries a child at the reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist church after a school shooting, Monday, March 27, 2023, in Nashville

A man carries a child at the reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist church after a school shooting, Monday, March 27, 2023, in Nashville

A man walks with children at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church after a shooting at The Covenant School

A man walks with children at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church after a shooting at The Covenant School

Adults walk with a child at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church

Adults walk with a child at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church

Adults walk with a child at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church after the shooting

Adults walk with a child at a reunification center at the Woodmont Baptist Church after the shooting

A man takes two children home from The Covenant School after Monday's shooting

A man takes two children home from The Covenant School after Monday’s shooting 

Two adults escort terrified kids away from the Covenant School on Monday after a school shooting

Two adults escort terrified kids away from the Covenant School on Monday after a school shooting 

Children and adults wait outside The Covenant School in Nashville following the shooting

Children and adults wait outside The Covenant School in Nashville following the shooting 

Parents gathered in the sanctuary waiting for updates on whether or not their children were among those harmed

Parents gathered in the sanctuary waiting for updates on whether or not their children were among those harmed 

A police officer walks by an entrance to The Covenant School after a shooting in Nashville

A police officer walks by an entrance to The Covenant School after a shooting in Nashville 

Terrified children hold hands as they leave The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday after a shooter opened fire, killing three children, before being shot dead by police

Terrified children hold hands as they leave The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday after a shooter opened fire, killing three children, before being shot dead by police 

A woman holds her young child after a school shooting at The Covenant School in Nashville on Monday. Three children were killed by the woman

A woman holds her young child after a school shooting at The Covenant School in Nashville on Monday. Three children were killed by the shooter

‘You don’t send you kid to school thinking there would be an active shooting, especially in this area. 

‘Just hearing as a parent myself it’s truly overwhelming. Seeing all the parents run up the hill to see if their children are okay,’ Lisa Debusk told DailyMail.com. 

Susan Perkins, 68, told DailyMail.com that her daughter and step-grandson were in the school at the time of the shooting, and unhurt. 

Her daughter is a communications director and her step-grandson is a sixth grade student.

‘I talked to my daughter and she was so busy she just couldn’t talk, just enough to say she was okay,’ said the mother, who lives in Knoxville, TN.

‘I’m just shaking with fear and so sorry that this happened,’ she said. ‘I just can’t hardly believe that three children got killed.’

She described Covenant School as a small, tightknit, Christian school where everyone knows and supports each other.

‘I did not think it would ever hap to my school and I would like to see the guns off the street,’ Perkins said.

Terrified parents wait for their kids at The Covenant School in Nashville. The woman was killed by police

Terrified parents wait for their kids at The Covenant School in Nashville. Shooter Audrey Hale was killed by police

Parents rushed to the scene to collect their children after the incident on Monday morning

Parents rushed to the scene to collect their children after the incident on Monday morning 

Children pour out of The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday

Children pour out of The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, on Monday 

Metro Nashville Police officers gather near The Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, Tenn., following a deadly shooting Monday, March 27, 2023

Metro Nashville Police officers gather near The Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, Tenn., following a deadly shooting Monday, March 27, 2023

Alison Grippo, 40, told DailyMail.com that she has three children in Covenant School who survived. 

As word spread of the mass shooting, she like other parents were directed to nearby Woodmont Baptist Church, set up as a meeting point as they anxiously waited for their kids.

‘She said her own children, like many others, were still speaking with investigators.

‘We’re waiting to be reunited with our kids,’ Grippo told DailyMail.com. ‘This is just hard to understand or put into words. We praise God in all situations, good and bad.’

There are around 33 staff members in the school and some 210 students. 

Many of those students were seen running from the building today in their school uniforms after the shooting began. 

Other schools in the area have gone into lockdown as a precaution, but there is not thought to be any additional threat.  

President Joe Biden issued a proclamation Monday evening honoring the victims of the shooting.

The American flag will be flown at half mast at all government and military buildings until sunset on March 31. 

Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn was among the first to share her condolences.

‘Chuck & I are heartbroken to hear about the shooting at Covenant School in Nashville. 

‘My office is in contact with federal, state, & local officials, & we stand ready to assist. 

Parents gather in the sanctuary of Woodmont Baptist Church in Nashville on Monday after a shooter opened fire, killing three students

Parents gather in the sanctuary of Woodmont Baptist Church in Nashville on Monday after a shooter opened fire, killing three students

At the National League of Cities conference on Monday, First Lady Jill Biden said: ‘I am truly without words. Our children deserve better. We stand with Nashville in prayer’

‘Thank you to the first responders working on site. Please join us in prayer for those affected.’ 

Sen. Bill Haggerty tweeted: ‘Devastated and heartbroken about the tragic news at Covenant School.

‘I’m grateful to law enforcement and first responders for their heroic actions.’ 

Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee tweeted: ‘I am closely monitoring the tragic situation at Covenant…as we continue to respond, please join us in praying for the school, congregation & Nashville community.’

At a press briefing, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said the shooting was proof the ongoing need for stricter gun reform. 

First Lady Jill Biden, speaking at the National League of Cities conference on Monday, told the crowd: ‘We just learned about another shooting in Tennessee – a school shooting. 

‘I am truly without words. Our children deserve better. We stand with Nashville in prayer.’ 

Monday’s shooting is the 129th shooting this year. 

How the Nashville school shooting unfolded

09:53am – Hale’s gray Honda Fit is seen arriving at The Covenant School in Nashville.

09:54am – Hale is seen driving through the parking lot, seemingly calm. Nothing suggests anything is out of the ordinary as she finds a spot to park.

10:10am – The glass front door, which was locked, is shattered as Hale opens fire. She then steps through the debris into the empty reception of the church, which is adjacent to the school.

10:13am – Brandishing her assault rifle, Hale is seen entering a carpeted room, inside the church looking for any victims. The room is empty. The first call to 911 about shots being fired in the building came in at this time.

10:18am – Hale is seen on the same camera inside the church still looking for victims. She opens a door into the next room.

10:19am – The 28-year-old returns through the door, and aims her gun, although there is no one there. She tries another door, then returns 30 seconds later.

10:20am – Hale is now walking through a wooden-floored building labelled ‘first’ in the footage, past an empty reception. She stalks the corridor, then disappears from view.

10:27am – Hale is shot dead on the second floor of the school, having engaged officers who fired back, killing her. 

source: dailymail.co.uk