Ms Butler clashed with Mr Madeley over their definitions of transgender. The ITV Good Morning Britain host stated that when a child is born “they are identified and observed in a particular way.” The Labour Party politician hit back saying “a child is born without sex.” Ms Butler’s comments enraged some Twitter users and they did not hold back.
Mr Madeley asked: “Do you think somebody that embraces transgender but nevertheless decides that there is a biological difference based on chromosomes based on a penis that may not have been removed after surgery, are you saying that person is transphobic?”
Ms Butler replied: “If you’re saying that a trans woman isn’t a woman then there are issues around that.
“Taking about penises and vaginas doesn’t help the conversation because what you’re saying then is a trans woman isn’t a woman by your own definition.”
Mr Madeley said: “You’re confusing the question with an opinion, I don’t hold that opinion at all.”
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The Labour MP said: “Explain the penis reference that you just referred to.”
The Good Morning Britain host responded: “Look when a child is born they are identified and observed in a particular way.”
Ms Butler said: “A child is born without sex at the beginning but anyway.”
Mr Madeley replied: “I don’t hold these opinions I am wondering why the Labour Party has decided that it is not possible to have a discussion about them and you’re closing the discussion down.”
A third Twitter user said: “Dawn Butler says a child is born without sex. This is groundbreaking. In future I guess the midwife will announce, ‘congratulations, it’s a baby.’
“The boundaries of my mind will not stretch far enough to take in the Labour party’s surreal position on so many issues these days.”
Another tweeted: “The world has truly gone mad and the Labour Party are leading the way: scary.”
A fifth said: “Labour in this current form is finished.”